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I believe I cloud remove the filter and the Dust Topper would catch everything. The second one is hooked to a Home Depot vacuum. I hooked it up brand new to the new DS.
The two most popular shop vac cyclone separators on the market are the Oneida Dust Deputy and the Home Depot Dustopper. The Dustopper is a relatively new entry and is based on Phil Thien's design. The Shop HacksDust Sheriff was developed based on lessons learned while testing the other cyclone systems. The Dust Sheriff includes an option to install an INTEGRATED filter which no other shop vac cyclone offers.
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This keeps the walls straight which increases their buckling strength. It works for the Dust Deputy, however, it allowed enough deflection of the bucket lid to cause a significant air leak with the Dustopper. Picture the bucket being full of a continuously swirling dust cloud. When air leaks in around the lid seal it flows through that dust cloud carrying dust up and out the cyclone and into the vacuum. You want to prevent air leaks below the clone at all costs.
The plaque could not cause very much sawdust with a #3 Pegas MG blade. I have not opened the five gallon bucket to see how much sawdust is in there but will do so tomorrow. I am having my doubts about the efficiency of the Dust Stopper. I would expect some dust on the filter but nearly as much as there was. I have been using the Dust Stopper for some time now and had been wondering how effective it is.
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Neither cyclone seemed to be sensitive to flow rate for either of the coarser dust tests. I tested flow rate effects and pressure drops across both cyclones in multiple configurations. This will allow you to compare results that are closest to the setup you use to decide which cyclone is best for you. If you aren't familiar with how cyclone separators work and want to know, check out the All About Cyclone Separators page. Better separation efficiency means less time cleaning and replacing filters. I looked not long ago The Festool runs 62db on low..
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Please share and read about more dust collection tips and tricksbyjoining the Shop Hacks Facebook Group by clickingHERE. Several reviews that I watched noted that the Dustopper was noticeably louder than the Dust Deputy. That is true when the hose is not attached to the inlet but I could not hear the cyclone at all over the sound of either vacuum and the Vacmaster is a relatively quiet vacuum. He Dust Deputy has a clear advantage when it comes to very fine dust.
I do imagine there are some systems maybe better air flow design etc that some may work better than others.. I didn't really consider that thought in my last reply... The ore expensive dust deputy funnel shaped units maybe a better design than the basic design like mine has..
I measured the sound on my shop vac with a db app on my phone.. I found a muffler / defuser thing at Ace hardware for my shop vac.. Honestly don't think it made a difference whatsoever.. I should run a test on it to see for sure.. But sure doesn't seem like it made any difference. My DD collects all the fines, and the big pieces go in the shop vac.
More detailed results including coarse dust and a smaller shop vac testing are included later in the article. My shop is very small - 12' x 25' x 8' high. For years I have been working down there without any dust collection of any kind. It's only since I started scrolling in November that I noticed how much more dust was being created. I mean that it was always bad but seemed to get worse using the scroll saw.
I have hooked it up to my Ridgid spindle sander and it works great on it. This includes a 3' hose and a 90 degree fitting to attach it to your vacuum. The only other accessory you need is a 5 gallon bucket. The Dustopper just snaps onto the bucket so no tools or hardware are required. Simply place one bucket inside of another.
To replace that specific filter is pricy even when it's on sale. I have used and they work just fine. Don't hook up a dust collector with 500cfm, just use shop vac and it works great.
Not sure if I got a dud but based on my experience I wouldn't take another one of these at any price. All of the cyclones reduced the vac flow rate. With the large shop vac the Dust Sheriff flowed 32% more air than the Dustopper and 28% more air than the Dust Deputy. More airflow means you collect the dust faster so you spend more time on your projects and less time cleaning.
But no matter what I do there is still going to be sawdust on the floor. So I'll keep doing what I have been doing for years... Sweep it up with a broom and then run the shop-vac over it. This doesn't take very long to do seeing as the shop is so small.
I had put a new filter in my vacuum and so this was a perfect time for a test. I tested the system with no extra seals but i would recommend putting a thin weather seal around the bottom edge that contacts the bucket. That may improve the performance a little by not allowing air to leak through which pulls dusty air up through the cyclone and into your vac.
My theory is that the spinning of the air exiting the cyclone is slowed down as it makes the 90 degree turn. The air converts that change in kinetic energy into pressure which happens to cancel the losses induced by the 90 degree bend. This is similar to adding flow straighteners to ducts to reduce the pressure losses around bends. It is likely that adding a flow straightener in the outlet of the cyclone and not using the 90 degree fitting would result in a measurably higher flow rate.
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