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I do imagine there are some systems maybe better air flow design etc that some may work better than others.. I didn't really consider that thought in my last reply... The ore expensive dust deputy funnel shaped units maybe a better design than the basic design like mine has..
Shop vacs produce enough pressure to implode most 5-gallon buckets. There are a couple ways to prevent this... Using the very fine dust starch, the Dustopper passed 2.5x to 7x more dust than the Dust Deputy. The Dust Deputy was 4x to 10x more efficient across the board.Both cyclones were very efficient at removing coarser dust. Coarse, medium and fine particles which represent the full range of dust produced in most shop. I have removed the DD and yes indeed there is an incredible amount of dust and the larger particle matter is inside the vacuum.
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The hose that comes with it is just long enough to stretch from the vac to the cyclone in this stacked configuration. For $12, might be worth it just for the elbow and hose. Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad. Dust Deputy Deluxe kitfor $106.74which comes with the cyclone, bucket, hardware, hose, fitting and a wheeled dolly. Now for the moment you have been waiting for...
As you see, the Dustopper reduces flow significantly more than the Dust Deputy. The higher flow rate Ridgid vac drops 45% using the Dustopper and 35% using the Dust Deputy. I was VERY surprised to see how much both cyclones reduced the flow rates of both vacs.
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More detailed results including coarse dust and a smaller shop vac testing are included later in the article. My shop is very small - 12' x 25' x 8' high. For years I have been working down there without any dust collection of any kind. It's only since I started scrolling in November that I noticed how much more dust was being created. I mean that it was always bad but seemed to get worse using the scroll saw.
For table saw dust and corn meal the systems seemed to perform equally well with the lower flow rate Vacmaster and the higher flow rate Ridgid vac. The last photo does not show the pink sawdust very well but actually has quite a bit of the dust on the entire filter. I am disappointed on that amount of sawdust.
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Other cyclone models available with links to reviews. I may be expecting too much but I'll open the bucket tomorrow and check.
Neither cyclone seemed to be sensitive to flow rate for either of the coarser dust tests. I tested flow rate effects and pressure drops across both cyclones in multiple configurations. This will allow you to compare results that are closest to the setup you use to decide which cyclone is best for you. If you aren't familiar with how cyclone separators work and want to know, check out the All About Cyclone Separators page. Better separation efficiency means less time cleaning and replacing filters. I looked not long ago The Festool runs 62db on low..
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After performing these tests I developed the Dust Sheriff shop vac cyclone separator which flows more air and catches more dust. If you are interested, you will find very detailed test information and results available at the end of this article. Without a cyclone separator you will have to clean your shop vac or dust collector filter 5x to 100x more often, depending on the type of dust you collect. If you use your shop vac or dust collector very often, a cyclone separator will quickly pay for itself with the time and money it saves.
I'd be curious how much is in your bucket.. I only ran my new separator a few minutes.. Only half as much work as you have done.. Only hooked up the vac to the dust port on the excalibur and I had a far amount of dust in the corners of the bucket on only just a few cuts.. If you purchase something through a post on our site, Slickdeals may get a small share of the sale.
So maybe I'll run a test on how much my system is catching.. Any cyclonic separator like this will lessen the rate your filter gets clogged. A lot of people just shake their filters clean, but that's not best. You really should replace it once it is clogged enough particulates are exiting the exhaust and in the air you will breath. So maximizing how long your filter will last will save you money in the long run. I run this, a shop vac bag, and a hepa shop vac filter.
Cyclones use a lot of energy via air friction on the walls as the air spins as well as friction due to the series of direction changes the air encounters along its path. The following chars illustrate how much each vac was affected by connecting each cyclone. The Dustopper passed significantly more coarse dust when it was 3/4 full with the lower flow rate vac.
This keeps the walls straight which increases their buckling strength. It works for the Dust Deputy, however, it allowed enough deflection of the bucket lid to cause a significant air leak with the Dustopper. Picture the bucket being full of a continuously swirling dust cloud. When air leaks in around the lid seal it flows through that dust cloud carrying dust up and out the cyclone and into the vacuum. You want to prevent air leaks below the clone at all costs.
If you are hanging over your saw cutting, you are breathing in a ton of dust. Once it gets into your lungs it never comes out. Your vote will help the community find the best deals. Get notified on new deals directly in your inbox or on your phone...
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